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Subject: AI is changing our minds. When is that a good thing?
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View this post on the web at https://blog.cosmos-institute.org/p/ai-is-chan=
ging-our-minds-when-is

This is a guest post from Maximilian Kroner Dale, Paul de Font-Reaulx, and =
Luke Hewitt.
This project was part of our second cohort of AI x Truth-Seeking Grant winn=
ers [ https://substack.com/redirect/eb096054-1ba3-483b-b86c-3a5079bca7ce?j=
=3DeyJ1IjoiNXFxeXF4In0.h9dEDbGj64cTNudluPwbMYWklSu8UKGoFv6eWS-HyoA ]. Toget=
her with the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression (FIRE) we supp=
ort builders advancing open inquiry and intellectual freedom in AI. Here ar=
e some projects from our first cohort [ https://substack.com/redirect/d0342=
83b-b551-403a-a5fa-34c9ac4e279b?j=3DeyJ1IjoiNXFxeXF4In0.h9dEDbGj64cTNudluPw=
bMYWklSu8UKGoFv6eWS-HyoA ]. We=E2=80=99ll be posting about more of the winn=
ers from this latest round in the coming weeks.
AI is changing our minds. Studies [ https://substack.com/redirect/8e30ad7e-=
c833-4781-94a4-ed1f7831e86b?j=3DeyJ1IjoiNXFxeXF4In0.h9dEDbGj64cTNudluPwbMYW=
klSu8UKGoFv6eWS-HyoA ] now show that conversations with chatbots can shift =
people=E2=80=99s views on political issues, and concern about this cuts acr=
oss the political spectrum=E2=80=94though people disagree sharply about whi=
ch influences are the problem.
Simply preventing AI from being persuasive is neither a realistic nor desir=
able goal. For one thing, not all AI influence is bad. If an AI provides us=
 with accurate information about a policy question and we change our views =
as a result, that seems like a beneficial outcome. Rewarding models for kee=
ping users=E2=80=99 views the same might lead them to prevent users from ch=
anging their minds, even when the users themselves want to.
But if some AI influence is desirable and some isn=E2=80=99t, how are we su=
pposed to benchmark what desirable influence looks like? That is why we bui=
lt DeliberationBench=E2=80=94a new benchmark for AI influence. We lay out t=
he justification for the benchmark, the initial results of our study, and s=
ome future directions. You can find more detail in our paper [ https://subs=
tack.com/redirect/d40a799a-ae77-4b01-b3c3-aba5a513078b?j=3DeyJ1IjoiNXFxeXF4=
In0.h9dEDbGj64cTNudluPwbMYWklSu8UKGoFv6eWS-HyoA ], presented at IASEAI 2026=
=2E
Deliberative Polling
This thought experiment is the basis for the core claim behind Deliberation=
Bench:
The influence an AI system has on a user=E2=80=99s views should resemble th=
e influence that user would have experienced if they=E2=80=99d participated=
 in a deliberative poll on the same topic.
So what are deliberative polls?
A deliberative poll is a form of democratic assembly exercise in which rand=
omly sampled citizens with differing views engage in structured discussions=
 on key policy questions, and have their views measured before and after th=
e process. This process, originally developed by Jim Fishkin at Stanford in=
 the 1980s, has been conducted over 150 times [ https://substack.com/redire=
ct/336a9cce-b506-400c-b77d-1c3934ccdb4b?j=3DeyJ1IjoiNXFxeXF4In0.h9dEDbGj64c=
TNudluPwbMYWklSu8UKGoFv6eWS-HyoA ] in 50 countries.
In a deliberative poll, participants are surveyed on a set of pre-defined p=
roposals (e.g. =E2=80=9CThe federal minimum wage be raised to $20 per hour=
=E2=80=9D) from strongly opposed (0) to strongly agree (10). Then, they are=
 provided with balanced briefing materials, are asked to deliberate in smal=
l groups with people who may disagree with them, and are provided with the =
chance to ask questions of a panel of experts. At the end, they are surveye=
d once more on their views.
This process is incredibly valuable for creating a normative benchmark, bec=
ause we get measured opinion change from a process that prioritizes balance=
, representation, and productive disagreement, on questions of real policy =
significance.
If you are willing to make one reasonable assumption with us=E2=80=94that t=
he opinion changes in deliberative polls stem primarily from those good inf=
luences (like new information, reflection, and discussion)=E2=80=94then we =
have the beginnings of a benchmark.
In our paper [ https://substack.com/redirect/d40a799a-ae77-4b01-b3c3-aba5a5=
13078b?j=3DeyJ1IjoiNXFxeXF4In0.h9dEDbGj64cTNudluPwbMYWklSu8UKGoFv6eWS-HyoA =
], we elaborate on how we compiled data from four nationally-representative=
 deliberative polls (combined n =3D 2,460) to create this benchmark.
Evaluating frontier models
To evaluate AI influence against the benchmark, we ran a large-scale persua=
siveness experiment. Over 4,000 Americans were randomly assigned to discuss=
 one of the same topics from the original deliberative polls (like tax refo=
rm or fossil fuel emission targets) with one of six frontier models. A cont=
rol group was asked to discuss the unrelated topic of travel, letting us se=
parate the effect of discussing the topic with an AI from the effect of sim=
ply chatting with an AI in general.
We measured participants=E2=80=99 views before and after the conversation, =
so we could compare the direction and magnitude of AI-induced opinion chang=
e against the deliberative polling data.
Our claim is that if people=E2=80=99s views changed in similar ways when co=
nversing with AI models to how they change when talking to other people in =
a deliberative poll, then that should reassure us about how AI models influ=
ence our views. Conversely, if AI and deliberative polling seem to influenc=
e users in opposing directions, that is concerning.
Looking across topics, when people discussed a policy issue with an AI, the=
ir views tended to shift in the same direction as participants who discusse=
d the same topics in deliberative polls. We found this significant positive=
 association for across two different sets of topics: US policy issues and =
issues related to AI-Human Interaction.
Importantly, there=E2=80=99s no such association in the control group. This=
 means we can attribute this specifically to discussing the topic, not just=
 to interacting with a chatbot.
However, in deliberative polls it=E2=80=99s not uncommon to see reduced var=
iance and partisan polarization in views over the course of deliberation. T=
his was the case in the deliberative polls on US policy for issues, for ins=
tance. However, participants=E2=80=99 conversations with AI did not reduce =
partisan polarization, nor did they reduce the variance of people=E2=80=99s=
 views. It=E2=80=99s possible this is a consequence of AI sycophancy. We=E2=
=80=99re not sure, and we think the divergence is worth investigating furth=
er, as it suggests one way in which AI influence may be different from deli=
berative polling influence, even if the people are pushed in the same direc=
tions, on average.
Looking across the different frontier LLMs we tested, the differences betwe=
en the six models were fairly modest. The models tended to influence people=
 in quite similar ways, and we take this to be an encouraging result.
Our paper includes a breakdown of participants=E2=80=99 perceptions on how =
accurate, compelling, and enjoyable their conversations were with each mode=
l.
Moving forwards
We think DeliberationBench could become a useful addition to model cards=E2=
=80=94a confirmation that a new conversational AI system does not influence=
 people in ways that are misaligned with democratic deliberation. This is e=
ven more important given that model capabilities, including persuasiveness,=
 will likely continue to improve in the future.
But for this benchmark to be useful, we believe several things must happen.
First, we need a continual source of deliberative polls in order to provide=
 data to compare LLM influence to. Given the long history and growth of del=
iberative polling as a practice, we think that this would be feasible with =
sufficient funding support to the groups that conduct them.
=E2=81=A0Second, there is limited capacity to run human experiments testing=
 every new model release or political issue. To help DeliberationBench scal=
e, we plan to develop a user simulation approach that could serve as a prox=
y for human experiments, and to validate it on experimental data (as in our=
 prior research [ https://substack.com/redirect/89dbab50-95d5-4d1e-bdcd-eb5=
748e87408?j=3DeyJ1IjoiNXFxeXF4In0.h9dEDbGj64cTNudluPwbMYWklSu8UKGoFv6eWS-Hy=
oA ]). Our hope is that this would let DeliberationBench function as an aut=
o-benchmark: a simulation study could be run for each new model release, wi=
th a human-subjects experiment triggered only when the simulation flagged r=
esults outside the norm.
Our benchmark is not without limitations. Unlike many other benchmarks, Del=
iberationBench is not meant to be a target for model optimization. We do no=
t claim that a correlation of one is the most desirable result. Rather, tha=
t negative results (e.g. zero or especially a negative correlation) are cau=
ses for concern, and that the results for subgroups require further investi=
gation. There are several reasons for our caution here, including questions=
 about the consistency with which deliberative polls change participants=E2=
=80=99 views =E2=80=93 we have to assume that a different random sample of =
the public wouldn=E2=80=99t have changed their minds in dramatically differ=
ent ways after their own deliberation.
Further, our evaluation results don=E2=80=99t tell us what characteristics =
of the users=E2=80=99 conversation with AI led to their opinion changes. It=
 remains a possibility that models could be moving users in the =E2=80=9Cri=
ght=E2=80=9D direction, but for the wrong reasons=E2=80=94for instance, by =
giving faulty arguments, or presenting only one side of the story.  This is=
 why we advocate for DeliberationBench=E2=80=99s deployment alongside other=
 evaluations, including whether models affect people=E2=80=99s belief in tr=
ue information [ https://substack.com/redirect/54d3fa38-719e-41b9-adc0-9a7c=
8ec14666?j=3DeyJ1IjoiNXFxeXF4In0.h9dEDbGj64cTNudluPwbMYWklSu8UKGoFv6eWS-Hyo=
A ] and whether they fairly represent diverse viewpoints [ https://substack=
=2Ecom/redirect/0a6eeeca-b580-4b18-ba8=
6-d35e3ad01069?j=3DeyJ1IjoiNXFxeXF4In0.=
h9dEDbGj64cTNudluPwbMYWklSu8UKGoFv6eWS-HyoA ].
Closing thoughts
We cannot avoid AI influence. Instead of arguing about outputs, Deliberatio=
nBench moves the debate upstream to processes for legitimate influence. By =
defining this by its resemblance to a process of reflection, disagreement, =
and self-revision, rather than ideological destination, it=E2=80=99s possib=
le to have a significantly more constructive debate.
DeliberationBench is by no means the final word for evaluating the influenc=
e of LLMs on our political views. On the contrary, we hope it can serve as =
a jumping off point for future procedural benchmarks, anchored to the resul=
ts of a process in which people change their views.
Cosmos Institute [ https://substack.com/redirect/b51158b5-8b26-4cc8-8e58-0c=
72cd47ef75?j=3DeyJ1IjoiNXFxeXF4In0.h9dEDbGj64cTNudluPwbMYWklSu8UKGoFv6eWS-H=
yoA ] is the Academy for Philosopher-Builders, with programs, grants, event=
s, and fellowships for those building AI for human flourishing.

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cohort</a><span>. We&#8217;ll be posting about more of the winners from thi=
s latest round in the coming weeks.</span></em></p><div class=3D"captioned-=
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td></tr></tbody></table><figcaption class=3D"image-caption" style=3D"box-si=
zing: content-box;color: rgb(119,119,119);font-size: 14px;line-height: 20px=
;font-weight: 400;letter-spacing: -.15px;margin-top: 8px;width: 70%;padding=
-left: 15%;padding-right: 15%;text-align: center;"><span>Guillaume Guillon-=
Lethi&#232;re, </span><em>Homer Singing His Iliad at the Gates of Athens </=
em><span>(1811)</span></figcaption></figure></div><p style=3D"margin: 0 0 2=
0px 0;color: rgb(54,55,55);line-height: 26px;font-size: 16px;"><span>AI is =
changing our minds. </span><a href=3D"https://substack.com/redirect/8e30ad7=
e-c833-4781-94a4-ed1f7831e86b?j=3DeyJ1IjoiNXFxeXF4In0.h9dEDbGj64cTNudluPwbM=
YWklSu8UKGoFv6eWS-HyoA" style=3D"color: rgb(54,55,55);text-decoration: unde=
rline;">Studies</a><span> now show that conversations with chatbots can shi=
ft people&#8217;s views on political issues, and concern about this cuts ac=
ross the political spectrum&#8212;though people disagree sharply about whic=
h influences are the problem.</span></p><p style=3D"margin: 0 0 20px 0;colo=
r: rgb(54,55,55);line-height: 26px;font-size: 16px;">Simply preventing AI f=
rom being persuasive is neither a realistic nor desirable goal. For one thi=
ng, not all AI influence is bad. If an AI provides us with accurate informa=
tion about a policy question and we change our views as a result, that seem=
s like a beneficial outcome. Rewarding models for keeping users&#8217; view=
s the same might lead them to prevent users from changing their minds, even=
 when the users themselves want to.</p><p style=3D"margin: 0 0 20px 0;color=
: rgb(54,55,55);line-height: 26px;font-size: 16px;"><span>But if some AI in=
fluence is desirable and some isn&#8217;t, how are we supposed to benchmark=
 what desirable influence looks like? That is why we built DeliberationBenc=
h&#8212;a new benchmark for AI influence. We lay out the justification for =
the benchmark, the initial results of our study, and some future directions=
=2E You can find more detail in </span=
><a href=3D"https://substack.com/redire=
ct/d40a799a-ae77-4b01-b3c3-aba5a513078b?j=3DeyJ1IjoiNXFxeXF4In0.h9dEDbGj64c=
TNudluPwbMYWklSu8UKGoFv6eWS-HyoA" style=3D"color: rgb(54,55,55);text-decora=
tion: underline;">our paper</a><span>, presented at IASEAI 2026.</span></p>=
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splay',-apple-system-headline,system-ui,-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,'S=
egoe UI',Roboto,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif,'Apple Color Emoji','Segoe UI Em=
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n: 1em 0 0.625em 0;color: rgb(54,55,55);line-height: 1.16em;font-size: calc=
(1.375em * 1);">Deliberative Polling</h3><p style=3D"margin: 0 0 20px 0;col=
or: rgb(54,55,55);line-height: 26px;font-size: 16px;">This thought experime=
nt is the basis for the core claim behind DeliberationBench:</p><blockquote=
 style=3D"border-left: 4px solid #25384c;margin: 20px 0;padding: 0;"><p sty=
le=3D"margin: 0 0 20px 0;color: rgb(54,55,55);margin-left: 20px;line-height=
: 26px;font-size: 16px;">The influence an AI system has on a user&#8217;s v=
iews should resemble the influence that user would have experienced if they=
&#8217;d participated in a deliberative poll on the same topic.</p></blockq=
uote><p style=3D"margin: 0 0 20px 0;color: rgb(54,55,55);line-height: 26px;=
font-size: 16px;">So what are deliberative polls?</p><p style=3D"margin: 0 =
0 20px 0;color: rgb(54,55,55);line-height: 26px;font-size: 16px;"><span>A d=
eliberative poll is a form of democratic assembly exercise in which randoml=
y sampled citizens with differing views engage in structured discussions on=
 key policy questions, and have their views measured before and after the p=
rocess. This process, originally developed by Jim Fishkin at Stanford in th=
e 1980s, has been conducted over </span><a href=3D"https://substack.com/red=
irect/336a9cce-b506-400c-b77d-1c3934ccdb4b?j=3DeyJ1IjoiNXFxeXF4In0.h9dEDbGj=
64cTNudluPwbMYWklSu8UKGoFv6eWS-HyoA" style=3D"color: rgb(54,55,55);text-dec=
oration: underline;">150 times</a><span> in 50 countries.</span></p><p styl=
e=3D"margin: 0 0 20px 0;color: rgb(54,55,55);line-height: 26px;font-size: 1=
6px;">In a deliberative poll, participants are surveyed on a set of pre-def=
ined proposals (e.g. &#8220;The federal minimum wage be raised to $20 per h=
our&#8221;) from strongly opposed (0) to strongly agree (10). Then, they ar=
e provided with balanced briefing materials, are asked to deliberate in sma=
ll groups with people who may disagree with them, and are provided with the=
 chance to ask questions of a panel of experts. At the end, they are survey=
ed once more on their views.</p><div class=3D"captioned-image-container-sta=
tic" style=3D"font-size: 16px;line-height: 26px;margin: 32px auto;"><figure=
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r><td style=3D"text-align: center;"></td><td class=3D"content" align=3D"lef=
t" width=3D"1352" style=3D"text-align: center;"><a class=3D"image-link" tar=
get=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://substack.com/redirect/9b71109d-0fe2-478d-a80=
4-6467de6c9710?j=3DeyJ1IjoiNXFxeXF4In0.h9dEDbGj64cTNudluPwbMYWklSu8UKGoFv6e=
WS-HyoA" style=3D"position: relative;flex-direction: column;align-items: ce=
nter;padding: 0;width: auto;height: auto;border: none;text-decoration: none=
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eight=3D"120.41420118343196" src=3D"https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_=
!Z7Q6!,w_1100,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2=
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0 auto;"></a></td><td style=3D"text-align: center;"></td></tr></tbody></tab=
le></figure></div><p style=3D"margin: 0 0 20px 0;color: rgb(54,55,55);line-=
height: 26px;font-size: 16px;">This process is incredibly valuable for crea=
ting a normative benchmark, because we get measured opinion change from a p=
rocess that prioritizes balance, representation, and productive disagreemen=
t, on questions of real policy significance.</p><p style=3D"margin: 0 0 20p=
x 0;color: rgb(54,55,55);line-height: 26px;font-size: 16px;">If you are wil=
ling to make one reasonable assumption with us&#8212;that the opinion chang=
es in deliberative polls stem primarily from those good influences (like ne=
w information, reflection, and discussion)&#8212;then we have the beginning=
s of a benchmark.</p><p style=3D"margin: 0 0 20px 0;color: rgb(54,55,55);li=
ne-height: 26px;font-size: 16px;"><span>In our </span><a href=3D"https://su=
bstack.com/redirect/d40a799a-ae77-4b01-b3c3-aba5a513078b?j=3DeyJ1IjoiNXFxeX=
F4In0.h9dEDbGj64cTNudluPwbMYWklSu8UKGoFv6eWS-HyoA" style=3D"color: rgb(54,5=
5,55);text-decoration: underline;">paper</a><span>, we elaborate on how we =
compiled data from four nationally-representative deliberative polls (combi=
ned n =3D 2,460) to create this benchmark.</span></p><h3 class=3D"header-an=
chor-post" style=3D"position: relative;font-family: 'SF Pro Display',-apple=
-system-headline,system-ui,-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,'Segoe UI',Robo=
to,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif,'Apple Color Emoji','Segoe UI Emoji','Segoe U=
I Symbol';font-weight: bold;-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased;-moz-osx-fo=
nt-smoothing: antialiased;-webkit-appearance: optimizelegibility;-moz-appea=
rance: optimizelegibility;appearance: optimizelegibility;margin: 1em 0 0.62=
5em 0;color: rgb(54,55,55);line-height: 1.16em;font-size: calc(1.375em * 1)=
;">Evaluating frontier models</h3><p style=3D"margin: 0 0 20px 0;color: rgb=
(54,55,55);line-height: 26px;font-size: 16px;"><span>To evaluate AI influen=
ce against the benchmark, we ran a large-scale persuasiveness experiment. O=
ver 4,000 Americans were randomly assigned to discuss one of the same topic=
s from the original deliberative polls (like tax reform or fossil fuel emis=
sion targets) with one of six frontier models. A control group was asked to=
 discuss the unrelated topic of travel, letting us separate the effect of d=
iscussing the topic</span><em> </em><span>with an AI from the effect of sim=
ply chatting with an AI in general.</span></p><p style=3D"margin: 0 0 20px =
0;color: rgb(54,55,55);line-height: 26px;font-size: 16px;">We measured part=
icipants&#8217; views before and after the conversation, so we could compar=
e the direction and magnitude of AI-induced opinion change against the deli=
berative polling data.</p><p style=3D"margin: 0 0 20px 0;color: rgb(54,55,5=
5);line-height: 26px;font-size: 16px;">Our claim is that if people&#8217;s =
views changed in similar ways when conversing with AI models to how they ch=
ange when talking to other people in a deliberative poll, then that should =
reassure us about how AI models influence our views. Conversely, if AI and =
deliberative polling seem to influence users in opposing directions, that i=
s concerning.</p><p style=3D"margin: 0 0 20px 0;color: rgb(54,55,55);line-h=
eight: 26px;font-size: 16px;">Looking across topics, when people discussed =
a policy issue with an AI, their views tended to shift in the same directio=
n as participants who discussed the same topics in deliberative polls. We f=
ound this significant positive association for across two different sets of=
 topics: US policy issues and issues related to AI-Human Interaction.</p><p=
 style=3D"margin: 0 0 20px 0;color: rgb(54,55,55);line-height: 26px;font-si=
ze: 16px;">Importantly, there&#8217;s no such association in the control gr=
oup. This means we can attribute this specifically to discussing the topic,=
 not just to interacting with a chatbot.</p><div class=3D"captioned-image-c=
ontainer-static" style=3D"font-size: 16px;line-height: 26px;margin: 32px au=
to;"><figure style=3D"width: 100%;margin: 0 auto;"><table class=3D"image-wr=
apper" width=3D"100%" border=3D"0" cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" data=
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;"><tbody><tr><td style=3D"text-align: center;"></td><td class=3D"content" =
align=3D"left" width=3D"1456" style=3D"text-align: center;"><a class=3D"ima=
ge-link" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://substack.com/redirect/8766be0a-9=
6ba-4891-9b68-b40191411783?j=3DeyJ1IjoiNXFxeXF4In0.h9dEDbGj64cTNudluPwbMYWk=
lSu8UKGoFv6eWS-HyoA" style=3D"position: relative;flex-direction: column;ali=
gn-items: center;padding: 0;width: auto;height: auto;border: none;text-deco=
ration: none;display: block;margin: 0;"><img class=3D"wide-image" data-attr=
s=3D"{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/pu=
blic/images/30d6aedb-02ba-4735-be7a-fec1f6f6b757_1800x1800.png&quot;,&quot;=
srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;=
:null,&quot;height&quot;:1456,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot=
;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&=
quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&q=
uot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessi=
ng&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" alt=3D"" w=
idth=3D"550" height=3D"550" src=3D"https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!=
TBZS!,w_1100,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2F=
substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F30d6aedb-02ba-4735=
-be7a-fec1f6f6b757_1800x1800.png" style=3D"border: none !important;vertical=
-align: middle;display: block;-ms-interpolation-mode: bicubic;height: auto;=
margin-bottom: 0;width: auto !important;max-width: 100% !important;margin: =
0 auto;"></a></td><td style=3D"text-align: center;"></td></tr></tbody></tab=
le><figcaption class=3D"image-caption" style=3D"box-sizing: content-box;col=
or: rgb(119,119,119);font-size: 14px;line-height: 20px;font-weight: 400;let=
ter-spacing: -.15px;margin-top: 8px;width: 70%;padding-left: 15%;padding-ri=
ght: 15%;text-align: center;">Comparison of average attitude changes observ=
ed in N =3D 4,088 LLM conversations (our study) vs previously-conducted del=
iberative opinion polls.</figcaption></figure></div><p style=3D"margin: 0 0=
 20px 0;color: rgb(54,55,55);line-height: 26px;font-size: 16px;"><span>Howe=
ver, in deliberative polls it&#8217;s not uncommon to see reduced variance =
and partisan polarization in views over the course of deliberation. This wa=
s the case in the deliberative polls on US policy for issues, for instance.=
 However, participants&#8217; conversations with AI did not</span><em> </em=
><span>reduce partisan polarization, nor did they reduce the variance of pe=
ople&#8217;s views. It&#8217;s possible this is a consequence of AI sycopha=
ncy. We&#8217;re not sure, and we think the divergence is worth investigati=
ng further, as it suggests one way in which AI influence may be different f=
rom deliberative polling influence, even if the people are pushed in the sa=
me directions, on average.</span></p><p style=3D"margin: 0 0 20px 0;color: =
rgb(54,55,55);line-height: 26px;font-size: 16px;">Looking across the differ=
ent frontier LLMs we tested, the differences between the six models were fa=
irly modest. The models tended to influence people in quite similar ways, a=
nd we take this to be an encouraging result.</p><div class=3D"captioned-ima=
ge-container-static" style=3D"font-size: 16px;line-height: 26px;margin: 32p=
x auto;"><figure style=3D"width: 100%;margin: 0 auto;"><table class=3D"imag=
e-wrapper" width=3D"100%" border=3D"0" cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" =
data-component-name=3D"Image2ToDOMStatic" style=3D"mso-padding-alt: 1em 0 1=
=2E6em;"><tbody><tr><td style=3D"text-a=
lign: center;"></td><td class=3D"conte=
nt" align=3D"left" width=3D"1456" style=3D"text-align: center;"><a class=3D=
"image-link" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://substack.com/redirect/5077c4=
5e-d07c-4e6c-982d-faccc89a10a5?j=3DeyJ1IjoiNXFxeXF4In0.h9dEDbGj64cTNudluPwb=
MYWklSu8UKGoFv6eWS-HyoA" style=3D"position: relative;flex-direction: column=
;align-items: center;padding: 0;width: auto;height: auto;border: none;text-=
decoration: none;display: block;margin: 0;"><img class=3D"wide-image" data-=
attrs=3D"{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.co=
m/public/images/d5438b69-89b7-4736-a5b9-e19ba8cb11cc_2048x796.png&quot;,&qu=
ot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&qu=
ot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:566,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&qu=
ot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null=
,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,=
&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProces=
sing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" alt=3D""=
 width=3D"550" height=3D"213.80494505494505" src=3D"https://substackcdn.com=
/image/fetch/$s_!6iZh!,w_1100,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:ste=
ep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd=
5438b69-89b7-4736-a5b9-e19ba8cb11cc_2048x796.png" style=3D"border: none !im=
portant;vertical-align: middle;display: block;-ms-interpolation-mode: bicub=
ic;height: auto;margin-bottom: 0;width: auto !important;max-width: 100% !im=
portant;margin: 0 auto;"></a></td><td style=3D"text-align: center;"></td></=
tr></tbody></table><figcaption class=3D"image-caption" style=3D"box-sizing:=
 content-box;color: rgb(119,119,119);font-size: 14px;line-height: 20px;font=
-weight: 400;letter-spacing: -.15px;margin-top: 8px;width: 70%;padding-left=
: 15%;padding-right: 15%;text-align: center;">Pre-post differences in polit=
ical attitudes following conversations with LLMs</figcaption></figure></div=
><p style=3D"margin: 0 0 20px 0;color: rgb(54,55,55);line-height: 26px;font=
-size: 16px;">Our paper includes a breakdown of participants&#8217; percept=
ions on how accurate, compelling, and enjoyable their conversations were wi=
th each model.</p><h3 class=3D"header-anchor-post" style=3D"position: relat=
ive;font-family: 'SF Pro Display',-apple-system-headline,system-ui,-apple-s=
ystem,BlinkMacSystemFont,'Segoe UI',Roboto,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif,'Appl=
e Color Emoji','Segoe UI Emoji','Segoe UI Symbol';font-weight: bold;-webkit=
-font-smoothing: antialiased;-moz-osx-font-smoothing: antialiased;-webkit-a=
ppearance: optimizelegibility;-moz-appearance: optimizelegibility;appearanc=
e: optimizelegibility;margin: 1em 0 0.625em 0;color: rgb(54,55,55);line-hei=
ght: 1.16em;font-size: calc(1.375em * 1);">Moving forwards</h3><p style=3D"=
margin: 0 0 20px 0;color: rgb(54,55,55);line-height: 26px;font-size: 16px;"=
>We think DeliberationBench could become a useful addition to model cards&#=
8212;a confirmation that a new conversational AI system does not influence =
people in ways that are misaligned with democratic deliberation. This is ev=
en more important given that model capabilities, including persuasiveness, =
will likely continue to improve in the future.</p><p style=3D"margin: 0 0 2=
0px 0;color: rgb(54,55,55);line-height: 26px;font-size: 16px;">But for this=
 benchmark to be useful, we believe several things must happen.</p><p style=
=3D"margin: 0 0 20px 0;color: rgb(54,55,55);line-height: 26px;font-size: 16=
px;">First, we need a continual source of deliberative polls in order to pr=
ovide data to compare LLM influence to. Given the long history and growth o=
f deliberative polling as a practice, we think that this would be feasible =
with sufficient funding support to the groups that conduct them.</p><p styl=
e=3D"margin: 0 0 20px 0;color: rgb(54,55,55);line-height: 26px;font-size: 1=
6px;"><span>&#8288;Second, there is limited capacity to run human experimen=
ts testing every new model release or political issue. To help Deliberation=
Bench scale, we plan to develop a user simulation approach that could serve=
 as a proxy for human experiments, and to validate it on experimental data =
(as in our </span><a href=3D"https://substack.com/redirect/89dbab50-95d5-4d=
1e-bdcd-eb5748e87408?j=3DeyJ1IjoiNXFxeXF4In0.h9dEDbGj64cTNudluPwbMYWklSu8UK=
GoFv6eWS-HyoA" style=3D"color: rgb(54,55,55);text-decoration: underline;">p=
rior research</a><span>). Our hope is that this would let DeliberationBench=
 function as an auto-benchmark: a simulation study could be run for each ne=
w model release, with a human-subjects experiment triggered only when the s=
imulation flagged results outside the norm.</span></p><p style=3D"margin: 0=
 0 20px 0;color: rgb(54,55,55);line-height: 26px;font-size: 16px;">Our benc=
hmark is not without limitations. Unlike many other benchmarks, Deliberatio=
nBench is not meant to be a target for model optimization. We do not claim =
that a correlation of one is the most desirable result. Rather, that negati=
ve results (e.g. zero or especially a negative correlation) are causes for =
concern, and that the results for subgroups require further investigation. =
There are several reasons for our caution here, including questions about t=
he consistency with which deliberative polls change participants&#8217; vie=
ws &#8211; we have to assume that a different random sample of the public w=
ouldn&#8217;t have changed their minds in dramatically different ways after=
 their own deliberation.</p><p style=3D"margin: 0 0 20px 0;color: rgb(54,55=
,55);line-height: 26px;font-size: 16px;"><span>Further, our evaluation resu=
lts don&#8217;t tell us what characteristics of the users&#8217; conversati=
on with AI led to their opinion changes. It remains a possibility that mode=
ls could be moving users in the &#8220;right&#8221; direction, but for the =
wrong reasons&#8212;for instance, by giving faulty arguments, or presenting=
 only one side of the story.  This is why we advocate for DeliberationBench=
&#8217;s deployment alongside other evaluations, including whether models a=
ffect people&#8217;s </span><a href=3D"https://substack.com/redirect/54d3fa=
38-719e-41b9-adc0-9a7c8ec14666?j=3DeyJ1IjoiNXFxeXF4In0.h9dEDbGj64cTNudluPwb=
MYWklSu8UKGoFv6eWS-HyoA" style=3D"color: rgb(54,55,55);text-decoration: und=
erline;">belief in true information</a><span> and whether they fairly repre=
sent </span><a href=3D"https://substack.com/redirect/0a6eeeca-b580-4b18-ba8=
6-d35e3ad01069?j=3DeyJ1IjoiNXFxeXF4In0.h9dEDbGj64cTNudluPwbMYWklSu8UKGoFv6e=
WS-HyoA" style=3D"color: rgb(54,55,55);text-decoration: underline;">diverse=
 viewpoints</a><span>.</span></p><h3 class=3D"header-anchor-post" style=3D"=
position: relative;font-family: 'SF Pro Display',-apple-system-headline,sys=
tem-ui,-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,'Segoe UI',Roboto,Helvetica,Arial,s=
ans-serif,'Apple Color Emoji','Segoe UI Emoji','Segoe UI Symbol';font-weigh=
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iased;-webkit-appearance: optimizelegibility;-moz-appearance: optimizelegib=
ility;appearance: optimizelegibility;margin: 1em 0 0.625em 0;color: rgb(54,=
55,55);line-height: 1.16em;font-size: calc(1.375em * 1);">Closing thoughts<=
/h3><p style=3D"margin: 0 0 20px 0;color: rgb(54,55,55);line-height: 26px;f=
ont-size: 16px;">We cannot avoid AI influence. Instead of arguing about out=
puts, DeliberationBench moves the debate upstream to processes for legitima=
te influence. By defining this by its resemblance to a process of reflectio=
n, disagreement, and self-revision, rather than ideological destination, it=
&#8217;s possible to have a significantly more constructive debate.</p><p s=
tyle=3D"margin: 0 0 20px 0;color: rgb(54,55,55);line-height: 26px;font-size=
: 16px;">DeliberationBench is by no means the final word for evaluating the=
 influence of LLMs on our political views. On the contrary, we hope it can =
serve as a jumping off point for future procedural benchmarks, anchored to =
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